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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-6235</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@christopher, Totally agree regarding moderation but due to the nature of readers who leave comments on this blog it causes them more confusion and me more work then if I moderate specific spammers.  

Often if a comment is moderated they&#039;ll end up submitting 2-4 comments not realising that it was moderated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@christopher, Totally agree regarding moderation but due to the nature of readers who leave comments on this blog it causes them more confusion and me more work then if I moderate specific spammers.  </p>
<p>Often if a comment is moderated they&#8217;ll end up submitting 2-4 comments not realising that it was moderated.</p>
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		<title>By: christopher</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-6221</link>
		<dc:creator>christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 02:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akismet has been great for eliminating most spam but I found it best to moderate all comments. It&#039;s time consuming but it does eliminate the problem. When my blog was unmoderate it was like an open invite to spammers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akismet has been great for eliminating most spam but I found it best to moderate all comments. It&#8217;s time consuming but it does eliminate the problem. When my blog was unmoderate it was like an open invite to spammers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-5746</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ken Yeah know exactly what you mean re-moderation but I&#039;ve had to do it on my blogs for specific terms due to some serial spammers :(

@Dr Mike My preference is definitely comment moderation based on terms and IP address.  Hence the reason why I&#039;ve listed it first.  I&#039;ve found that works the best for the type of spammers I&#039;m having to deal with.  

Akismet is only running on one of my two blogs and I don&#039;t see that much difference from using it.  

@Liane YoungBlogger Totally agree. I must change the post on my personal blog as I&#039;ve now had way too many spam comments of &#039;have a good holiday :( &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ken Yeah know exactly what you mean re-moderation but I&#8217;ve had to do it on my blogs for specific terms due to some serial spammers <img src='http://theedublogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Dr Mike My preference is definitely comment moderation based on terms and IP address.  Hence the reason why I&#8217;ve listed it first.  I&#8217;ve found that works the best for the type of spammers I&#8217;m having to deal with.  </p>
<p>Akismet is only running on one of my two blogs and I don&#8217;t see that much difference from using it.  </p>
<p>@Liane YoungBlogger Totally agree. I must change the post on my personal blog as I&#8217;ve now had way too many spam comments of &#8216;have a good holiday <img src='http://theedublogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Liane YoungBlogger</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-5735</link>
		<dc:creator>Liane YoungBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spamming really makkes my blogging life miserable. Not only because I hate that technique, also because it makes me lose comment number. It could&#039;ve been a decent comment but they choose to spam. It&#039;s a shame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spamming really makkes my blogging life miserable. Not only because I hate that technique, also because it makes me lose comment number. It could&#8217;ve been a decent comment but they choose to spam. It&#8217;s a shame</p>
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		<title>By: drmike</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-5730</link>
		<dc:creator>drmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sue.  I&#039;m sorry to say but you&#039;ve pushed one of my buttons.  I for one can not recommend the use of Akismet.  Having been blackballed by Automattic within it, I feel the service is too political.  To this day, I still can&#039;t send a trackback from my own blog and not have it marked as spam by Akismet.  Experience has shown with the folks that I host a very large percentage of false positives with it, especially on highly technical sites. 

The other problem is the use of Akismet within a service like EduBlogs.  It&#039;s actually a quick one line change to the Akismet file and James could offer complete sitewide service without the need for folks to run to another site to pick up a license.  The problem though to do that, it costs money.  A &lt;a href=&quot;http://akismet.com/buy/enterprise/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;great deal of it&lt;/a&gt;.  So much so the pricing isn&#039;t even listed on that page.  They do a free option but it requires their own advertising on your sites.

Let&#039;s also be honest.  Most folks don&#039;t check the spam queue.  They assume that a service like Akismet is plugin and forget and if it&#039;s in there, it;s supposed to be in there.

There is an alternative though which is something I&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://edublogs.org/forums/topic.php?id=6038&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;suggested&lt;/a&gt; in the support forums a couple of times.  The use of &lt;a href=&quot;http://antispam.typepad.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Typepad&#039;s solution&lt;/a&gt;.  They&#039;ve stated a number of times that the use of their service is 100% free, even on a setup like Edublogs.  All it would require would be two edits of the Akismet plugin, the free license obtainable from Typepad and the change of the url of the server that the check is made against.

Thanks Sue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue.  I&#8217;m sorry to say but you&#8217;ve pushed one of my buttons.  I for one can not recommend the use of Akismet.  Having been blackballed by Automattic within it, I feel the service is too political.  To this day, I still can&#8217;t send a trackback from my own blog and not have it marked as spam by Akismet.  Experience has shown with the folks that I host a very large percentage of false positives with it, especially on highly technical sites. </p>
<p>The other problem is the use of Akismet within a service like EduBlogs.  It&#8217;s actually a quick one line change to the Akismet file and James could offer complete sitewide service without the need for folks to run to another site to pick up a license.  The problem though to do that, it costs money.  A <a href="http://akismet.com/buy/enterprise/" rel="nofollow">great deal of it</a>.  So much so the pricing isn&#8217;t even listed on that page.  They do a free option but it requires their own advertising on your sites.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s also be honest.  Most folks don&#8217;t check the spam queue.  They assume that a service like Akismet is plugin and forget and if it&#8217;s in there, it;s supposed to be in there.</p>
<p>There is an alternative though which is something I&#8217;ve <a href="http://edublogs.org/forums/topic.php?id=6038" rel="nofollow">suggested</a> in the support forums a couple of times.  The use of <a href="http://antispam.typepad.com" rel="nofollow">Typepad&#8217;s solution</a>.  They&#8217;ve stated a number of times that the use of their service is 100% free, even on a setup like Edublogs.  All it would require would be two edits of the Akismet plugin, the free license obtainable from Typepad and the change of the url of the server that the check is made against.</p>
<p>Thanks Sue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Allan</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-5727</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22First+time+I+have+seen+your+blog+and+what+a+great+post+that+was!%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;First time I&#039;ve seen your blog. And what a great post that was!&lt;/a&gt;

Yeah, right!

About 5 a month on my blog. I try to resist comment moderation. But there will come a time . . .

Catchya later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22First+time+I+have+seen+your+blog+and+what+a+great+post+that+was!%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=" rel="nofollow">First time I&#8217;ve seen your blog. And what a great post that was!</a></p>
<p>Yeah, right!</p>
<p>About 5 a month on my blog. I try to resist comment moderation. But there will come a time . . .</p>
<p>Catchya later</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-5725</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sarah Stewart, I wonder if Google had an in built spam protection system which has been protecting you over the years?  However it is hard to believe they would be doing that without sending the comments to moderation like Akismet does.

I totally agree regarding comment moderation which is why I love being able to do it selectively.  

I&#039;ve looked inside Blogger and they don&#039;t give you a lot of options for controlling.  I would change Comment moderation to Only on posts older than (and decide on a good number of days).  Most spammers on my blogs start writing spam comments when the post is a bit older.  Whereas normally readers write comments within a few days of the post being published - although there are some exceptions to that on The Edublogger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sarah Stewart, I wonder if Google had an in built spam protection system which has been protecting you over the years?  However it is hard to believe they would be doing that without sending the comments to moderation like Akismet does.</p>
<p>I totally agree regarding comment moderation which is why I love being able to do it selectively.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked inside Blogger and they don&#8217;t give you a lot of options for controlling.  I would change Comment moderation to Only on posts older than (and decide on a good number of days).  Most spammers on my blogs start writing spam comments when the post is a bit older.  Whereas normally readers write comments within a few days of the post being published &#8211; although there are some exceptions to that on The Edublogger.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-5724</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gail P, Sorry about those spam comments in your reader.  Akismet only traps those that it has previously identified and unfortunately it can be good at grabbing comments that aren&#039;t spam.  

I get a lot who get past Akismet and they often will have several companies they are spamming for.  So it can take time to get them under control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gail P, Sorry about those spam comments in your reader.  Akismet only traps those that it has previously identified and unfortunately it can be good at grabbing comments that aren&#8217;t spam.  </p>
<p>I get a lot who get past Akismet and they often will have several companies they are spamming for.  So it can take time to get them under control.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Stewart</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-5723</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sue, thanks for the post...most fortuitous I have to say.

I have been very lucky over the last couple of years and have had little spam so have been able to resist using the comment moderation because I think it puts in barriors to people leaving comments.

BUT...I have been getting a lot of spam over the last month...to one particular post. Would you be able to give me advice on how to deal with this problem on Blogger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue, thanks for the post&#8230;most fortuitous I have to say.</p>
<p>I have been very lucky over the last couple of years and have had little spam so have been able to resist using the comment moderation because I think it puts in barriors to people leaving comments.</p>
<p>BUT&#8230;I have been getting a lot of spam over the last month&#8230;to one particular post. Would you be able to give me advice on how to deal with this problem on Blogger?</p>
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		<title>By: Gail P</title>
		<link>http://theedublogger.com/2009/11/17/tips-for-dealing-with-spam-commenters/comment-page-1/#comment-5722</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gotta admit Sue, that I&#039;m &quot;happy&quot; to see that you have challenges as well as the rest of us. When I get your spam comments now in my reader, I simply reflect on all the steps you have taken to prevent that and I realize it ain&#039;t easy. I have a measly 158 spam comments blocked on my blog but that&#039;s 158 akismet protected headaches I didn&#039;t have to deal with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gotta admit Sue, that I&#8217;m &#8220;happy&#8221; to see that you have challenges as well as the rest of us. When I get your spam comments now in my reader, I simply reflect on all the steps you have taken to prevent that and I realize it ain&#8217;t easy. I have a measly 158 spam comments blocked on my blog but that&#8217;s 158 akismet protected headaches I didn&#8217;t have to deal with.</p>
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